just found this link to

just found this link to the Jewish Internet Association and had a look at the weblogs as well as Melanie Phillip's Weblog
and am shocked at some of the rhetoric that is coming out of their
mouths...right ok i can understand (well I can't but i don't have a
better word for it) that they feel a need to protect themselves...but
do they really think that

... In the past the only way such murderous, bastard
regimes have ended was through massive destruction of their people and
lands. The U.S. and its allies bombed Germany and Japan into rubble,
killing millions of "innocent" people in the process. It was considered
just retribution for the concentration camps, the Rape of Nanking,
endless other atrocities, and in general the militarization and
aggression of their socities. Upon the rubble, new peaceful societies
were built under the rules of the victors.

is justified...Germany I'd like to point out did attempt to wipe out
the Jewish people...still the fact that anyone would consider that as a
step forward in the development of the human race is strange (well to
me)...yes I think we did have to stand up to the whole thing, but we're
not talking anything on that scale here are we? afaik were the Israelis
not wanting a land for themselves back at the end of the war...and so
the PTB (Powers That Be) gave them one...taking it away from
others...who now want back they see as being theirs already (not saying
that is or it isn't theirs)...i was talking to some one the other day
and they felt that the most sensible(well there are a couple of issues)
would be to sink the entire area and force all sides to become
outcasts...now may be not a totally practical suggestion but I can
understand the rational behind it...remove the main bone of
contention...i think that a little patience and compassion on both sides,
a less (read non) violent form protest from the Palestinians, a
non-knee jerk "lets kill someone" reaction to everything from the
Israelies and for America to get out of the friggin way and stop
shielding Israel[*] from everyone else. (this i can appreciate when it
was a new country, and just trying to find its way...but its doing
alright now...let it stand up and play with the other kids)....
and before anyone decides to tear me to shreds...i really don't care
one way or another...I'd like it to be sorted out and as a outsider all
I can see is a lot of unreasonable squabbling going on...ok with
guns...but even AK47s vs. Apache's just isn't fair...
[*] oh in case you're american and hadn't realised...that is one of the
reasons that lots of people in the world dislike your country...sorry
if i'm sounding patronising to all of you who do know that..but there
are still lots of you that don't
Didn't mean to rant but...
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